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Holiday Foods Love or Hate Them

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Shehawk ( member #68741) posted at 3:07 AM on Wednesday, November 19th, 2025

StillLiven ๐Ÿคฃ some foods are better imagined than actually tried.

I saw too that the 1960โ€™s creepy clear gelatin "salads" like the ones with a single shrimp on top ๐Ÿฆ or weird green misc stuff inside are making a comeback rebranded as "healthy".

Noping right away from them tooโ€ฆ

"It's a slow fade...when you give yourself away" so don't do it!

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Tred ( member #34086) posted at 1:41 PM on Friday, November 21st, 2025

We are actually doing a sort of traditional Thanksgiving dinner for those of whose who grew up around the Chesapeake Bay: steaming 1/2 bushel of premium live Chesapeake Bay blue crabs with traditional J.O. #2 crab seasoning! We'll have hush puppies, corn on the cob, deviled eggs (mandatory), and some TBD side dishes and desserts. Not certain what some in the family are bringing and it doesn't matter as long as you can put butter on it :) We enjoy crab feasts as it really is a meal where you can eat at your leisure, and whatever is leftover we pick and make crab cakes the old Maryland style (read mostly crab with minimal fillers to bind the meat). Those freeze and become treats over the next couple of months.

We'll do the turkey and ham at Christmas, but this time of year the crabs are fattening up for burying themselves in the mud for the winter, and the premium jimmy's (6 1/2" min size) are excellent. Hope everyone enjoys their Thanksgiving, there is no right or wrong meal as long as everyone ends up with a full belly!

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Bigger ( Attachรฉ #8354) posted at 2:04 PM on Friday, November 21st, 2025

To simplify Christmas dinner my wife and I suggested to our (grown) kids that we skip the walnut and bacon-fried broccoli and the Waldorf Salad. Two sides they never touched. It was like we had suggested we skip Christmas altogether!
They insisted dinner be the same as always. So for the last couple of years, we have made all the side, and still they donโ€™t touch either!

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BearlyBreathing ( member #55075) posted at 4:45 PM on Friday, November 21st, 2025

Bigger,
My mom used to make a lime jello/cottage cheese/walnut/cool whip "salad" for holidays when we were little. We called it Good Green because it was both good and green. When we become teens she tried to quit making it but we revolted. It did finally drop off the menu when she somehow inexplicably lost the vintage Tupperware mold that it was always made in. (Yeah,,, rightโ€ฆ no idea what happened to itโ€ฆ)

So there is still hope. laugh Just lose the dishes!

In our case we did eat it (and loved it) but it was 70s molded food sugar bomb trash and definitely not a salad, but we could not let it go.
Traditions are traditions :-)

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Pippin ( member #66219) posted at 11:05 PM on Friday, November 21st, 2025

BSR OMG

It was impossible to appreciate the scent of the turkey or pies under an aggressive miasma of turnip casserole.

Hilarious!! laugh laugh laugh

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 11:17 PM on Friday, November 21st, 2025

I agree with Pippin, that line is one of the most poetically descriptive I've ever come across regarding food!

(You ought to be a writer if you aren't already, BraveSirRobin.)

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 7:59 AM on Sunday, November 23rd, 2025

Tred, I'm too late for this Thanksgiving, but I'm inviting myself over for next Thanksgiving if im still living in the US. laugh

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Pogre ( member #86173) posted at 12:31 PM on Sunday, November 23rd, 2025

Things I LOVE: Sweet potato casserole with nut topping and not too sweet, sweet potato pie (if I make it), pumpkin anything else but cheesecake, Brussels sprouts with chestnuts, homemade cranberry anything (bread, chutney, sauce, etc.), tamales ๐Ÿซ”!

I live in the southwest and tamales and menudo are huge in Mexican households for the holidays! I'm not Mexican myself, but it just wouldn't seem right to have Thanksgiving or Christmas without at least some tamales! We're doing Thanksgiving this year at a close friend's house who is Mexican, so I'm looking forward to both!

Menudo can be very hit and miss, tho... I've had it where it's very good, and a few times where it was not so much. You have to cook the shit out of the tripe. Like... literally, lol.

Turkey, mashed potatoes and gravy and stuffing (and of course the tamales!) are probably my favorites. Green bean casserole might be my least, but I'll eat it if it's pretty fresh, hot, and the onions are nice and crispy. When they start getting soggy it's just disgusting to me.

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 12:22 PM on Monday, November 24th, 2025

Pogre, I make menudo year round so it's not a traditional "holiday" dish, but is often on my menu. I am a complete stickler for cleaning the hell out of the tripa so it doesnt have that rancid after taste. I also like big chunks and not tiny chunks of the meat. A new tradition I started a few years ago is making turkey pozole verde a few days after Thanksgiving and Christmas using the turkey carcass for the bone broth base with fresh Hatch chiles I get from NM. I usually freeze the carcass the same day for about 3-7 days just so it doesn't go bad in the fridge. If my turkey wasn't bought fresh, then I make the pozole with a day or two.

PS I'm also in AZ. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 12:53 PM on Monday, November 24th, 2025

StillLivin, I am just starting on putting together your cranberry salad today and now I see your turkey pozole verde and need to know more!! Please tell us how to do this, as I just bought a 20 lb. turkey for 3 people so there will be plenty leftovers; I was wondering what to do with the bird carcass. Do I need to lnclude the corn if I don't like the lye-treated kernels? (all the pozole I've had was made with them.) Pozole verde just SOUNDS so good!

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 11:02 PM on Monday, November 24th, 2025

Superesse, ok fair warning if don't follow recipes and this one I just wing it.

Crush the turkey carcass so it is compact and submerged completely underwater with ACV and aromatics.

Instapot for about an hour the carcass and aromatics. If you dont have an Instapot, you can cook the bones in a crockpot for 18 - 24 hours. I dont put herbs in this part because they can become bitter. I keep a bag of odds and ends vegetables in the freezer so I dump this in (my aromatics). They always have carrots, garlic, onions. But they can also have squash bits, eggplant, celery, sweet potato, turnips, etc.

Once bone broth is done, I add pureed (I own a vitamix blender) tomatillos, Serrano and Hatch and poblano chiles, onions, garlic, cilantro to a big pot (I make almost gallon of bone broth).

I shred leftover turkey (or just go out and buy a breast and legs and cook in the broth and shred when done) and add it. Use as much or little meat as you want.

I also add spices and herbs of dried Mexican oregano, achiote (i would have to look this up because I dont know the English word...or if it is English), about 3 to 5 whole cloves, 1 or 2 star anise, and a few allspuce seeds, whatever dried powdered chiles I have on hand to layer the different flavors of heat, garlic powder, onion powder, and cumin crushed whole seeds (powder is fine but I prefer seeds because they hold their flavor better due to less oxidation), and about a Tbs of poultry bouillon (of your choice and you can skip this if you feel your broth is already flavorful enough). Don't add too much, it gets saltier as it summers.

I let everything simmer for about 20 minutes.

I then add hominy and let simmer for another 10 minutes so that the hominy can absorb the flavor of the broth.

Make sure you either make your corn tortillas homemade or get them from a good bakery/tortillaria and not the crappy store bought kind. Heat them up over a flame (if you have a gas stove) or on an iron skillet (comal) until they are very slightly crunchy on the edges.

When you serve, squeeze some fresh lime juice in it and top with finely chopped onion and more fresh cilantro.

If you can't get the tomatillos and chiles fresh, you can substitute salsa verde, but make sure it is a good quality, flavorful brand and not some crap like Pace Picante.

If I remember a forgotten ingredient, I'll update.

Nothing tastes better than this with torn up corn tortillas and a cold beer. If you like micheladas, make one of those and use the dark Modelo beer in it.

Oh, I almost forgot. I brine my turkeys so the original thyme, sage, and other traditional herbs have already flavored the bones. If you don't brine your turkey, you'll need to add more seasonings to flavor it. My brine consists of OJ, apple juice, brown sugar, salt, lemons, oranges, juniper berries, thyme, sage, rosemary, herbs de Provence, rosemary, pepper, garlic, onions and ACV. So all of this already flavors the bones before making it into bone broth. I forgot this important part.

You can probably add a little bit of beer to the broth too. I've heard that adds depth to pozole. I've yet to try it.

ETA You don't have to add the hominy if you don't like it. I don't hate it, but it wasn't always my favorite and i used to skip adding it. However, after getting my degree in Nutritional Science, I now always add it. YouTube Nixtamalization. This process increases the nutritional content of Ca++ and niacin and allows for easier absorption in the stomach. And don't forget the fiber it adds.

ETA 2: achiote is annatto

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 11:13 PM on Monday, November 24th, 2025

Superesse let me know how you like the jello mold. And a week or so from now let me know if you made the turkey pozole verde!

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 11:45 PM on Monday, November 24th, 2025

OMG StillLivin, why don't you come on over to my house and just MAKE this magical pozole LOL!!! Sooo mouthwatering, and I have all the spices except star anise. Oh thank you I always wanted "los secretos!" ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ’‹

I just read on some recipe website that pineapple or any citrus might slow down the set of the gelatin; is that rumor true? I have pure refined gelatin in a jar so I could add a bit more if need be. Also rendering the cranberyy relish tonight with the zest of 2-3 clementines, and going to add the zest of another 2 to the orange jello layer tomorrow.

You really upped my game already, I just went out and scored 3 vintage jello molds at Goodwill today, 2 for $2.00 and a Bundt pan for $1.00!

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 5:30 AM on Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

Superesse, we should just become neighbors! LOL.
I am sooo sorry, I completely forgot a step in the pineapple. Yes, the enzymes in raw pineapple would definitely inhibit the mold from setting. I simmer the pineapple for just a few minutes if it is fresh. You can also microwave, but it's not as good at breaking down the enzymes in the pineapple. You'd have to throughly "cook" the fresh pineapple and it would lose some of its flavor and nutritional value. If it is canned, the cooking and oxidation process breaks down the enzymes, so no need to cook, but just make sure you drain the juice and press it a little through a sieve. Same with citrus, it'sthe acid instead of enzymes, though, that can slightly inhibit the jelling process. But usually cooking the fruit with the jello works. I always keep a few packets of plain knox gelatin jic. It's easier to just used the canned sometimes. Save the juices for cocktails. wink
The star anise isn't absolutely necessary. It just adds a little depth and some sweetness.
That's awesome on the jello molds. I donated all of mine when I downsized and moved to an apartment. I now use individual glasses or decorative mason jars and just store them in the fridge on the door slots. It's easier for individual use. Some of those Costco desserts have the perfect, fancy glass containers. I just reuse them.
I'll go to a thrift store when I move to a bigger place again.
See, sometimes being a so called expert, we can forget small, but important, steps. I'm glad you asked.
I actually want to make a cookbook in a few years. It will be not only recipes, but nutritional lessons. For example, if I were to put in the jello mold recipe, I'd break down the chemical reactions, discuss the enzymes, what gelatin is (collagen), and have a complete break down of all the macro- and micronutrients.
I've started with a few recipes already. I'd need to find an illustrator for some of it.
That's why it's a project I'll take on in a few years.

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 3:47 AM on Friday, November 28th, 2025

Turkey Day Update on the three layer Jello Mold! It was a "qualified success" but for me, with no family background as a cook, it was a steep learning curve LOL. Now I am worried if I am up to making that turkey pozole verde, but I still want to go for it.

By the time I came across an internet tip on the timing of when to do the next layer, I'd already done the cranberry layer and the lime layer. Added a little extra unflavored gelatin to overcome any "pineapple or acid effect" and sure enough, tonight at our dinner my mandarin orange cream cheese bottom layer was quite easily separated from the green layer after the treat was on its side on our plates, but nobody complained!

And I probably should have used more sugar, OJ or maple syrup in my cranberries.

We found a hot water bath with the bundt pan worked well using my biggest stock pot, not too tall and the bundt pan fit nicely into the rim so it didn't sink! It needed only a few seconds to loosen the jello as I had lightly used Pam. But we left it maybe 12 seconds? And already, with hot tap water, we saw a little bit of cranberry red juice started melting off the top layer after we inverted it (a two person job, in this household!) but not enough loss of form that anyone would notice. I took photos, because it was a seriously fancy creation! But I will never be Julia Child....

Hoping that everybody's culinary efforts were appreciated on this Thanksgiving Day.

Thanks, StillLivin!

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 5:01 AM on Friday, November 28th, 2025

Superesse,
Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you for the update. I am taking notes so when I tyoe out a recipe, it includes all of the information needed to prevent any mishaps. Also, FYI many years ago, like 30, when I first started making this dish, I did the same thing. I ended up just putting each layer into its own square dish. When they set, i cut them in cubes and combined them. The kids just scooped out cubes instead of slicing. So thank you so much for the feedback.
I would suggest watching a YouTube video on making the pozole verde first, jic I missed a step that I take for granted but forgot to mention. duh laugh
I usually make the jello mold over a 2 day timeframe just because it takes a while for each layer to set. I forgot to mention that part. grin

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 6:20 AM on Friday, November 28th, 2025

You mentioned that actually, StillLivin, and I just didn't want to admit how long it took me to do this, but as you said, I made the cranberry layer day one, ran into the tartness factor, because I refused to use any juice or jello with artifical dye in it, so I spent extra for 100% Cranberry juice to mix with the cranberry relish I'd already made (which wasn't real sweet, more tangy) so after the gelatin got added and I tasted a little of that, I didn't know whether adding sugar to the warm sauce pan would mess up the gelling process...and I needed to keep adding sugar little by little, for a long time! Then I sprinkled in more unflavored gelatin, as insurance. End result: it was firm yet that hot water bath still melted a little of the top layer.

One key note was: you gotta know the size of the Jello package, as the usual ones in our stores now are only 3 oz., but many online recipes I looked up for similar layered Jello molds (none being exactly like yours!) called for 6 oz. Jello. I think the companies have downsized the boxes over the years but the older online recipes survived.

Another pointer: one can of fruit, drained, may be enough quantity to make multiple packs of a fruit Jello, per most recipe proportions I found online.

Anyway it all worked out and I wish I could share a photo of it.

Look up what Wikipedia has to say about the history of jello mold salads, and you will probably LOL!! As I said several times, I never knew those old ladies back then worked that diligently to do this!

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